Doctor DS Grieve tries to avoid the consequences of his frauds.......
Sunday, February 18, 2018
Saturday, February 17, 2018
In the Pretoria High Court on 8th February 2018 at 11h30 in Court 6F the case against Dr DS Grieve was heard.
Grieve was not in court. The matter revolved around the principle of whether the HPCSA has the jurisdiction to investigate this medical miscreant on a matter which is non-medical of nature. The advocate for the Health Professionals Council of South Africa argued that it was because his antics bring the entire medical profession into disrepute; he has swindled patients who came to him for medical treatment in his doctor's rooms and therefore it was him who allowed the two areas of business and medicine to merge and become a grey area. He swindled some R22m from his patients and others and was also charged in a police station due to this financial misconduct - additionally he was also previously arrested and charged on a count of sexual assault against a waitress who worked at a restaurant in Pretoria he once owned "Cynthias" as well. Therefore Dr DS Grieve as a professional becomes embroiled in a messy and unbecoming situation (s) bringing the whole profession into disrepute. His council argued that he had to approach the court even though the HPCSA's investigation has not been concluded otherwise the council is investigating a matter which the court may find outside the council's jurisdiction.
The judge summed it up by saying "The patients went to him for their health not their wealth".
MAIN FACT -
HE USED HIS POSITION AS THEIR PHYSICIAN AND AS A PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL DOCTOR TO DEFRAUD THEM ALL.......SENDING SOME TO THEIR DEATHS PREMATURELY AS A RESULT OF LOSING THEIR LIFE SAVINGS....
Grieve was not in court. The matter revolved around the principle of whether the HPCSA has the jurisdiction to investigate this medical miscreant on a matter which is non-medical of nature. The advocate for the Health Professionals Council of South Africa argued that it was because his antics bring the entire medical profession into disrepute; he has swindled patients who came to him for medical treatment in his doctor's rooms and therefore it was him who allowed the two areas of business and medicine to merge and become a grey area. He swindled some R22m from his patients and others and was also charged in a police station due to this financial misconduct - additionally he was also previously arrested and charged on a count of sexual assault against a waitress who worked at a restaurant in Pretoria he once owned "Cynthias" as well. Therefore Dr DS Grieve as a professional becomes embroiled in a messy and unbecoming situation (s) bringing the whole profession into disrepute. His council argued that he had to approach the court even though the HPCSA's investigation has not been concluded otherwise the council is investigating a matter which the court may find outside the council's jurisdiction.
The judge summed it up by saying "The patients went to him for their health not their wealth".
MAIN FACT -
HE USED HIS POSITION AS THEIR PHYSICIAN AND AS A PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL DOCTOR TO DEFRAUD THEM ALL.......SENDING SOME TO THEIR DEATHS PREMATURELY AS A RESULT OF LOSING THEIR LIFE SAVINGS....
Judgement follows.
Front Page News Die Beeld by renown journalist Erika Gibson "Doctor believe to have deceived many"
85 year old Mr Albert Van Der Linde - Patient of Dr DS Grieve - Defrauded by Dr DS Grieve and his wife Sanet Grieve aka Botha right inside the old age home Protea Retirement home - Protea Aftree Oord - Centurion Pretoria
Affidavit of old Louis Bester - Patient of Dr DS Grieve - defrauded and destroyed - deceased in a terrible state of despair -
Did Dr DS Grieve medicate his own frail mother to death for a few paltry insurance policies...? He held her isolated on a deserted property with no communications expect his own incoming calls whilst his wife Sanet took control of her ATM card - and syphoned every pension paid penny out before it was even cold.....you be the judge - we have asked the SAPS to investigate.
Saturday, October 22, 2016
Friday, November 8, 2013
Dr DS Grieve Fraudster - Public Call For Prosecution
- DOCTOR DECEIVES MANY
A Devious Disgraceful Deceptive Doctor - DS Grieve
THIS HEADLINE SCREAMS OUT THE
FOLLOWING WORDS -
MEDICAL DOCTOR and DISHONESTY
The guidelines for dishonesty in the medical
profession state clearly:-
Dishonesty, even where it does not result in direct harm to patients.......is particularly serious because it undermines the trust the public places in the profession. Examples of dishonesty in professional practice could include defrauding an employer, patients friends or family... In the court case R v GMC para 29 "...the concept of fitness to practise is not limited to clinical performance." Quote Smith LJ
Medical Professional Standards requirement stipulates - "You must be honest in commercial dealings with employers, insurers and other organisations or individuals....."
Doctors occupy a position of privilege and trust in society and are expected to act with integrity and uphold proper standards of conduct. The council has a responsibility to protect the public interest. This includes, amongst other things and in addition to the protection of patients, the maintenance of public confidence in the profession and the declaring and upholding of proper standards of conduct and behaviour"
This devious disgraceful dishonest deceitful disgusting doctor has to go –
not if just when – soon!
DISHONEST MEDICAL DOCTOR - FRAUD THIEF LIAR
For those doctors who quietly supported, financed and hid Dr DS Grieve whilst his patients and victims were in turmoil and suffering as the victims of his gymnastic financial fraud - "the dealer is as guilty as the stealer". Doctors Bhavesh I Gordhan, Dr Gerhard Basson, Dr Gideon Van Wyk, Dr Gert NP Cloete, Dr JH Von Willich Unitas Hospital and Dr Gavin Zipp, Dr Duncan Carmichael, Candice Le Lique - the public expected more from you - as they say in the classics - "Lie down with the dogs and you will get fleas - lie down with the pigs......." - you know how it ends. What is written on the internet is written in ink not pencil doctors. Next time when you are well forewarned it might pay to consider your reputation before the damage is done. You ignored the correspondence, the warnings and even the visits to your offices. You did not even have the courtesy to respond or reply.
Little known fact just confirmed in a full statement from Dr DS Grieve's former wife (the Pretoria based good hearted loyal, Christian hard working and dedicated registered nurse who stood by him through thick and thin even his first Ponzi scheme scam...) - she and her family were cheated out of a large property and substantial money by Dr DS Grieve when he convinced them to place it all in a trust with .....wait for it......Dr DS Grieve as Trustee. Of course when he got arrested for the serious sexual assault on one of the waitresses at Cynthia's Restaurant which he then owned, he finally advised her he was leaving her for the part time waitress Sanet Botha, a cheap tart bottle blonde tattooed trollip and drug addict from Welkom who placed herself on the Cynthia's menu under "very cheap". He had through various persuasions which included of course prescription medication on tap (she told everyone it was pain killers for the removal of her "body art")
(check it out on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB-Cqf2lxHQ )
A picture speaks a thousand words - all drugged up and nowhere to go
Grieve's former wife was left high and dry and walked away shredded, and emotionally and financially drained. Whilst divorcing his wife Grieve then sent the tarty waitress off to work in a hotel, mind you again as a waitress, in the UK for 6 months to compartmentalise her before marrying her. The SAPS records indicate a large number of calls for domestic violence from her whilst imbalanced and on drugs and prescription medication prescribed by Dr DS Grieve himself - or as advised, by her own hand falsifying his signature when he would not give to her even using friends names and those of her sisters to obtain the drugs from various chemists. Devious or what ?
COMING SOON - HOW DR DS GRIEVE ALLEGEDLY MEDICATED HIS OWN MOTHER TO DEATH FOR AN INSURANCE PAYMENT ......KEEPING HER ISOLATED AND COMPARTMENTALISED ON A PLOT IN RANDFONTEIN LOOKING AFTER PIGS FAR AWAY FROM PHONES, INTERNET, NEWSPAPERS, FRIENDS OR FAMILY. HOW HIS WIFE ANNEXED THE MOTHERS BANK ACCOUNT CARD AND PIN NUMBER AS WELL AS HER ID AND KEPT HER STARVED, ISOLATED AND ALONE UNTIL SHE DIED ALONE, IN A SMALL HOVEL WITH ONLY A CORRUGATED IRON ROOF, DAMP COLD AND WITH LITTLE FOOD WAITING ON HIM TO FETCH HER AWAY FROM THE MISERY - WEIGHING IN AT 38 KG.......
See the comment below this post by Professor Piet Nel well known academic
"What a disgrace for such an honourable profession to have such a person in their midst".
Comment by Professor Pieter Nel well known academic and business authority, author on business practice and lecturer.
Dr DS Grieve's FIRST PONZI Scheme SCAM in which he caught and defrauded a large group of ELDERLY TRUSTING PATIENTS, associates, friends and family
Real life - Dr DS Grieve PONZI scheme contract used in his 2002 SA Money Gardens PONZI scam from Karel Van Der Merwe
New links coming soon
New links coming soon
but managed to hush it up using Pretoria attorney Gert Le Roux who cautioned him "Dr DS Grieve - this is fraud..."
More coming including an on the record interview with one of his elderly patients caught in this scam.....
ABSOLUTE CRIMINAL FRAUD AND THEFT -
THE REAL HARD CORE UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE
IN ADDITION TO OTHER VICTIMS WE HAVE CONFIRMED THAT DR DS GRIEVE ALSO DEFRAUDED HIS RETIRED ELDERLY BROTHER....WE MANAGED TO SPEAK TO HIM AND OBTAIN THIS PIECE OF EVIDENCE PREPARED BY FORENSIC ACCOUNTANTS - AND FORENSICS IS AN EXACT SCIENCE...
THIS DOCUMENT DEMONSTRATES THE FRAUD, IMMEDIATE THEFT OF ALL FUNDS TRANSFERRED TO DR DS GRIEVE THOUGHT TO BE INVESTMENTS BY HIS BROTHER - THE REALITY DR DS GRIEVE STOLE THIS MONEY IN BULK TO HIS PRIVATE ACCOUNTS.
THE BALANCE OF THE PAGES DEMONSTRATE THE DE FACTO MONEY LAUNDERING THAT TOOK PLACE WITH THESE FUNDS WHICH BECAME THE PROCEEDS OF CRIME AS SOON AS THE FRAUD AND THEFT ON PAGE 1 WERE COMMITTED....
THE TRANSFERS, RECEIPTS, MOVEMENTS, PAYMENTS TO ALLAN GRAY, NEDBANK ETC ETC UNCOVERED DURING THE FORENSIC INVESTIGATION - ALL MONEY LAUNDERING BY DR DS GRIEVE AND HIS WIFE SANET GRIEVE WHO WENT ON TO SPEND AND LIVE THE HIGH LIFE. ENOUGH ROPE......
ALL THESE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN HANDED TO THE SAPS NOW. BOTH GRIEVE AND HIS WIFE DESERVE LONG PRISON TERMS......
Read the full details of the fraud and money transfers, Fraudulent Company Liquidations here:-
Dr DS Grieve Special Insolvency Inquiry 1 of 5
Dishonest Dr DS Grieve Special Inquiry August 2010 - THE DEFRAUDING OF MR W GRIEVE OF R8,5 MILLION from Karel Van Der Merwe
New links coming soon
New links coming soon
Dr DS Grieve Special Insolvency Inquiry Part 2 of 5
Dr DS Grieve Special Insolvency Inquiry Part 3 of 5
Dr DS Grieve Special Insolvency Inquiry Part 4 of 5
Dr DS Grieve Special Insolvency Inquiry Part 5 of 5
In the words of the Special Insolvency Inquiry holder:-
"Dr Grieve YOU are living in cloud Cuckoo land...."
Dr BI Gordhan and Dr Basson Expose
We reveal how "the butcher of Unitas" hid a known fraudster - knowing that he had defrauded his own and other doctors patients.....
Coming soon - a full expose including an interview...
Formal Complaint Against Dr BI Gordhan
Dr Bhavesh Gordhan had operated my wife on 04 May 2011.
The procedures was laparotomy for mesenteric “biopsy”, procedure codes were; 1809, 1637, 1651 and ICD 10 codes I 88.0, K56.6.
Before the medical aid authorization number was obtained, my wife and I visited Dr Dordham medical suite for check- up and he gave brief explanation of how the biopsy procedure would be executed and the estimated time frame.
At the time we had the impression that we were putting my wife’s life in the (trustworthy?) hands of DR Gordham on the assumption that we were well informed and well motivated and that Dr Gordham would act in my wife best interests.
However we were not informed that this kind of elective abdominal aortic surgery without reasonable benefit there is the inevitable consequence with major pre-existing illnesses and serious diseases, it is to be expected that there will be a substantial adverse outcomes arising post operation.
It is clear that if a procedure has not been shown to be effective, we a properly informed patient may wish to avoid the inevitable concomitant risk by not having the procedure at all.
Having obtained a copy of Dr Gordhan letter sent to the medical aid for extra money /ref. no.:21694/, I have discovered that surgery performed on my wife was nothing else than damage repair from a poorly executed operation that was beyond the discussed boundaries of the biopsy procedure.
Having read and analysed Dr Gordham’s one page medical report, it is become clear that this life threatening “so called complicated surgery” was nothing else that damage repair of three “iatrogenic injuries” by Dr. Gordham which required the involvement of a specialist physician because the damage Dr. Gordham had made during his biopsy procedure was so extensive.
My first question is. What is my wife? A guinea pig or living cadaver from the Dr Mengele laboratories!
My second question is. Why the medical aid members should pay for Dr Gordham “so called “medical experience?
I am strongly incline and believe after many bad experience that majority of the medical “expert” using wonderful and noble ancient profession just for money making exercise. Some of these experts have no ethical or morale values at all.
I understand that the medical aide has just administrative function only, managing the funds cumulated by the members.
I kindly request full investigation why the medical aid should pay for such “botched experience” and the undue money should be claimed back.
Faithfully yours,
Balint Palinko Ms Ilona Palinko Special Power of Attorney
The procedures was laparotomy for mesenteric “biopsy”, procedure codes were; 1809, 1637, 1651 and ICD 10 codes I 88.0, K56.6.
Before the medical aid authorization number was obtained, my wife and I visited Dr Dordham medical suite for check- up and he gave brief explanation of how the biopsy procedure would be executed and the estimated time frame.
At the time we had the impression that we were putting my wife’s life in the (trustworthy?) hands of DR Gordham on the assumption that we were well informed and well motivated and that Dr Gordham would act in my wife best interests.
However we were not informed that this kind of elective abdominal aortic surgery without reasonable benefit there is the inevitable consequence with major pre-existing illnesses and serious diseases, it is to be expected that there will be a substantial adverse outcomes arising post operation.
It is clear that if a procedure has not been shown to be effective, we a properly informed patient may wish to avoid the inevitable concomitant risk by not having the procedure at all.
Having obtained a copy of Dr Gordhan letter sent to the medical aid for extra money /ref. no.:21694/, I have discovered that surgery performed on my wife was nothing else than damage repair from a poorly executed operation that was beyond the discussed boundaries of the biopsy procedure.
Having read and analysed Dr Gordham’s one page medical report, it is become clear that this life threatening “so called complicated surgery” was nothing else that damage repair of three “iatrogenic injuries” by Dr. Gordham which required the involvement of a specialist physician because the damage Dr. Gordham had made during his biopsy procedure was so extensive.
My first question is. What is my wife? A guinea pig or living cadaver from the Dr Mengele laboratories!
My second question is. Why the medical aid members should pay for Dr Gordham “so called “medical experience?
I am strongly incline and believe after many bad experience that majority of the medical “expert” using wonderful and noble ancient profession just for money making exercise. Some of these experts have no ethical or morale values at all.
I understand that the medical aide has just administrative function only, managing the funds cumulated by the members.
I kindly request full investigation why the medical aid should pay for such “botched experience” and the undue money should be claimed back.
Faithfully yours,
Balint Palinko Ms Ilona Palinko Special Power of Attorney
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Thursday, May 30, 2013
DR DS GRIEVE FRAUDSTER NEW MAILSHOT POSTCARD
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DR DS GRIEVE AND SANET GRIEVE / BOTHA
FRAUDSTERS
Friday, February 8, 2013
Dr DS Grieve Fraudster Sclerotherapy Session Cancelled Due to Dishonesty
The fraudster Dr DS grieve recently had a session on Sclerotherapy cancelled by the organisers due to his dishonesty in failing to advise them that he was the subject of a criminal investigation enquiry by the SAPS Hawks (Commercial Crime Investigation Unit) and the subject of a disciplinary tribunal by the HPCSA (Health Professionals Council of South Africa) as well as being scrutinised by various other statutory and legal bodies in South Africa for fraud.
Google the name Dr DS Grieve
Sclerotherapy session cancelled - Dishonesty
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| Cancelled due to dishonesty |
Saturday, January 23, 2010
The Grieve Group South Africa
THE GRIEVE GROUP WAS SURREPTITIOUSLY LIQUIDATED IN DECEMBER 2009 BY DR DS GRIEVE LEAVING A R30 MILLION SHORTFALL AND A GROUP OF ELDERLY RETIRED INVESTORS ALMOST PENNILESS. GRIEVE HAD SIMPLY TRANSFERRED ALL THE MONEY TO HIS PERSONAL ACCOUNTS AND CLOSED THE COMPANIES. HE THEN TRANSFERRED ALL THE MONEY SO THAT IT WAS LAYERED BUT ACCESSIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE HAD A BRIDGING CONTRACT WITH DS GRIEVE BRIDGING SOLUTIONS, HAD A LOAN FROM DS GRIEVE BRIDGING SOLUTIONS, DS GRIEVE INC, WERE A PARTNER, CREDITOR, INVESTOR OR HAVE A CLAIM AGAINST DR DAVID STEPHEN GRIEVE, DS GRIEVE BRIDGING SOLUTIONS (PTY) Ltd, DS GRIEVE INCORPORATED OR HIS WIFE SANET GRIEVE nee BOTHA (self confessed drug addict and ex Waitress from Cynthia's Restaurant), KNOW MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, FAMILY OR HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THEM, PHOTOGRAPHS, TESTIMONY OR WISH TO SHARE ANY DETAILS, OR ANYTHING ELSE, CONTACT THIS AUTHOR:-
The best way for us to "authenticate" you is to include your name and contact details, background on involvement with the above subject and a contact telephone number and mobile number. A member of our investigations team will make contact and speak to you and then arrange a meeting if required. We look forward to hearing from you!
THE AUTHORS AND A SPECIALIST INVESTIGATIONS TEAM ARE CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING AND TRACING ALL ACTIONS, ACTIVITIES AND REPORTS RELEVANT TO THIS COUPLE AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. MANY INVESTORS WILL HAVE HAD "COMFORTING CALLS" FROM THE HEAD OF ACCOUNTS "INA" PAPENFUS (see her photo below) RIGHT UP TO THE LAST MOMENT WHILE THE COMPANY WAS ACTUALLY BEING MADE INSOLVENT (THIS IN ITSELF CONSTITUTES A FRAUD AND IS A BREACH OF THE COMPANIES ACT REQUIREMENTS - LETS GET HER ON THE WITNESS STAND FOR QUESTIONING) , PLEASE CHECK THIS SITE REGULARLY - PICTURES OF ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND STAFF ARE ON THE WAY AND TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE PUBLIC INTERESTS OF SECURITY AND AWARENESS.
YOU MAY BE A FAMILY MEMBER, RELATIVE, EX FRIEND, ESTATE AGENT, BROKER, PHARMACIST, DOCTOR, HOSPITAL ADMIN STAFF, FINANCE COMPANY DIRECTOR OR OWNER, AN ACCOUNTANT, A BANK TELLER, FELLOW STUDENT OR TUTOR AT THE GIBS SCHOOL OF BUSINESS MBA PRETORIA UNIVERSITY, A LAWYER OR IF YOU'RE A TENANT IN A PROPERTY, STORING ANYTHING FOR HIM, A CONTRACTOR, HOUSEBUILDER, A SUPPLIER OR SERVICE PROVIDER- WE WANT TO KNOW - !!!!
FRONT PAGE NEWS MAKER!!!
FAILED/TBC COURT APPLICATIONS:-
APPLICATION FOR LIQUIDATION MADE TO THE PRETORIA HIGH COURT UNADVERTISED
11 DECEMBER 2009 - FAILED.
DR DAVID STEPHEN GRIEVE AND WIFE SANET nee BOTHA
(DIRECTOR OF DR DS GRIEVE BRIDGING SOLUTIONS, DRUG ADDICT AND FORMER WAITRESS AT CYNTHIA'S RESTAURANT).
Ina Papenfus
The "Comfort Caller"
(Grieve Group)
Who called the creditors on DS Grieve's
instruction to play for time and tell them
not to worry everything was ok.....
DR DS GRIEVE AND WIFE SANET GRIEVE nee BOTHA (FORMER SELF CONFESSED DRUG ADDICTED WAITRESS AT CYNTHIA'S RESTAURANT). AT GIBS MBA DINNER/YEAR END FUNCTION 2008
Alumni
Director’s message
The GIBS Alumni are our most important ambassadors. The success that so many seem to be having on completion of their studies is evidence of the quality of people who have come to the school and the type of experience they have had while here. In the years ahead, the memories of time at the school, the future connections and the possibilities of further engagement will, I hope, all play a part in your personal and professional development.
With best wishes,
Professor Nick Binedell
Director, Gordon Institute of Business Science
Sasol Chair of Strategic Management
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Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet
Phoney Physician Dr DS Grieve
Director’s message
The GIBS Alumni are our most important ambassadors. The success that so many seem to be having on completion of their studies is evidence of the quality of people who have come to the school and the type of experience they have had while here. In the years ahead, the memories of time at the school, the future connections and the possibilities of further engagement will, I hope, all play a part in your personal and professional development.
With best wishes,
Professor Nick Binedell
Director, Gordon Institute of Business Science
Sasol Chair of Strategic Management
PROOF OF FRAUD
NATIONAL NEWS HEADLINES
DIE BEELD NEWSPAPER
13 MARCH 2012
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Dr DS Grieve
Sanet Grieve nee Botha
Dr DS Grieve and wife Sanet Grieve
Ina Papenfus and Andre Botha
Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet Grieve
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Dr David Grieve and wife Sanet
Phoney Physician Dr DS Grieve
Breytenbach Business Management, candice le lique, candice le lique david s grieve david stephen grieve Dr
Bhavesh Ishvarlal Gordhan; Dr BI Gordhan; Dr Bhavesh Gordhan Dr Bhavish Gordhan
dr BI Gordhan; Dr G Basson dr david grieve Dr DS grieve dr ds gr, david s grieve, david stephen grieve, Dewald Breytenbach, dewald@bbm.co.za, Dr Bhavesh Ishvarlal Gordhan; Dr BI Gordhan; Dr Bhavesh
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